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#431964 - 04/09/05 01:10 PM About Bypassing The Safety Lock-Out On In-Dash Screens
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I see a lot of people ask how to bypass the safety lock-out on their in-dash screens and DVD players and feel a few things need to be cleared up. First of all, it's illegal. There is a law of some sort in all 50 states that would get you into trouble for simply driving with your screen showing a moving video. And second, and possbily most important, it's just not safe. It's not safe for you and it's not safe for the people around you.

Now, a lot of people make excuses that they want the screen to show a video for their passengers. That's no excuse at all. It will still be distracting to you as the driver.

It doesen't matter how good you are. I know how good and safe I am behind the wheel, but I would simply not considder bypassing the safety lock-out on a screen so I could have a video playing while driving. They make visor and headrest screens for your passengers. You shouldn't EVER be able to see the screen from your seat.

A couple things to think about

It only takes once. If you have an accident and kill someone, it WILL haunt you for a long, long time. Emotionaly and financially. Anytime murder shows up on your record, it will hurt your ability to find a job. If you teach, you never will again. You won't work in a hospital and you won't work for the government. Trust me, they will look at you as unemployable when they see you've caused someone's death for ANY reason. Especially when you do it by showing no concern for safty. YOU will have to live with it for the rest of your life in many, many ways.

Second. If you did kill somebody, you'll be lucky to stay out of jail. Let's assume you are driving along. And let's assume you have a tire blow out. And, once more, let's assume that you go left of center because you loose control. And finally, let's assume you kill somebody.

Now, you're going to go to court over this because, believe me, the prosicuter will know you have that in-dash screen, the powers that be belive you were distracted and couldn't safely operate your vehicle in that situation because you were, oh my gosh, watching a movie on your in-dash screen. So now you stand against charges that you negligently caused the death of another person by illegally watching a movie while driving. There are 2 ways this is going to pan out.

Number one. You bypassed the safety lock-out on your in-dash screen/DVD player and were able to watch that movie. Sure, you weren't because you would never actually watch a movie while driving. But remember, you already broke the law by installing that screen in a manner that would allow you to. Why would anyone think you did that? Why, so you could watch a movie while driving, of course. So it's your word against there's. And you have already broken the law in this area. Do you see any stretch in thinking you were watching a movie?

Number two. You didn't bypass the safety lock-out on your screen. You couldn't possibly have been watching a movie while driving. They can't backpeddle now and say, "Oh, well he was changing the disc or looking over to turn up the volume." So you've just proven that you were simply unable to recover the vehicle after a mechanical failure that you probably couldn't prevent. You might still recieve some much more minor charge, but certianly not murder.

Now, if you think all this is too far fetched to happen, it already did. In Alaska, a man was driving along, possibly watching a movie with his passenger, possibly reaching for a soda (is that any better?) when he went left of center and killed a couple in the oncoming lane. According to the prosicuter, he'd bypassed his screen's safety lock-out and was able to have watched that movie. He claims he was not doing so. Regardless of who was right, he was acquited of the charge. You shouldn't count on that. Don't believe me?

"Petterson had been charged with the deaths of Robert Weiser, 60, and Dona Weiser, 56, when his truck collided with their vehicle on a highway in southern Alaska on October 12, 2002.

Prosecutors argued that Petterson and his passenger Jonathan Douglas were watching a DVD movie when Petterson's pickup truck crossed the center line, hitting the Weiser's sport utility vehicle head-on."
source - Mobile Electronics Magazine

So, to re-enforce my point, NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER bypass the safety lock-out on your screen. Don't do it for your own safety and well being. More importatnly, don't do it for the safety and well being of others. And thank you for reading this.
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#431966 - 26/09/05 07:12 PM Re: About Bypassing The Safety Lock-Out On In-Dash Screens
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#431967 - 15/10/05 08:50 PM Re: About Bypassing The Safety Lock-Out On In-Dash Screens
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Originally posted by xTHANATOPSISx:
Now, if you think all this is too far fetched to happen, it already did. In Alaska, a man was driving along, possibly watching a movie with his passenger, possibly reaching for a soda (is that any better?) when he went left of center and killed a couple in the oncoming lane. According to the prosicuter, he'd bypassed his screen's safety lock-out and was able to have watched that movie. He claims he was not doing so. Regardless of who was right, he was acquited of the charge. You shouldn't count on that. Don't believe me?

"Petterson had been charged with the deaths of Robert Weiser, 60, and Dona Weiser, 56, when his truck collided with their vehicle on a highway in southern Alaska on October 12, 2002.

Prosecutors argued that Petterson and his passenger Jonathan Douglas were watching a DVD movie when Petterson's pickup truck crossed the center line, hitting the Weiser's sport utility vehicle head-on."
source - Mobile Electronics Magazine

This happens alot more often than you think. Every Year Pioneer gets hundreds of calls from lawyers threatening to sue this and that.
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#431968 - 23/10/05 10:38 PM Re: About Bypassing The Safety Lock-Out On In-Dash Screens
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ohh damnnn, u actully convinced me not to buy a stand alone front monitor, since it has no safety feature!

and if there is no safety feature, i WILL be tempted to watch something on it, even though i will say i wont!

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#431969 - 28/10/05 01:52 AM Re: About Bypassing The Safety Lock-Out On In-Dash Screens
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ohh damnnn, u actully convinced me not to buy a stand alone front monitor, since it has no safety feature!

and if there is no safety feature, i WILL be tempted to watch something on it, even though i will say i wont!
You can always wire a relay into the accesory wire and the brake wire so it won't work unless you're stopped. No one woud legally argue against taht being sufficient. So long as you can't watch it while moving, it's all good to go. In your case, it's just a bit of extra wiring and you can have what you want and not have a potential accident or ticket. Let me know if you need more info....
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#431970 - 11/04/06 03:32 PM Re: About Bypassing The Safety Lock-Out On In-Dash Screens
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Hey, mines wired like that. \:\)

Really I don't watch movies though like I used to. Now it's really just for the MP3's in my dvd player. I need the feature bypassed so I can see the tracks/folders on the MP3's. ;\)
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#431971 - 20/09/06 10:15 PM Re: About Bypassing The Safety Lock-Out On In-Dash Screens
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Hey, I've read the sticky and wonder about the liability issues related to a car pc. My DVD player is in the back inside the PC. Even though I won't have a DVD in the drive while driving the car PC will have videos on it which I suppose in some respect could be watched during driving even though I will not.

My question is, is the screen itself with anything on it (ie navigation system) make me subject to criminal liability if anything goes wrong and if not, does not having a dvd in the drive make a difference?

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#431974 - 24/02/07 11:10 PM Re: About Bypassing The Safety Lock-Out On In-Dash Screens
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You couldn't possibly have been watching a movie while driving. They can't backpeddle now and say, "Oh, well he was changing the disc or looking over to turn up the volume." So you've just proven that you were simply unable to recover the vehicle after a mechanical failure that you probably couldn't prevent. You might still recieve some much more minor charge, but certianly not murder.

so umm u seriously think they would use that" you were adjusting your stereo blah blah when theres a cd player or at least a radio in every car?" i mean what if i was turning up the heat or AC which is right next to radio
or glanced over spedimeter to see how fast im goin? lol thats ridiculous

but i did drive cars with dvd playin and belive me its very distractive
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#1117219 - 02/08/07 02:05 AM Re: About Bypassing The Safety Lock-Out On In-Dash Screens [Re: KayPlaya]
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Most in-dash DVD systems today are built with that lock out for the front unit only. If you are using rear seat or overhead monitors (as well as visor monitors) on the video-out connector, then its not affected. But this not only for video playback, but nav systems too. On my headunit, I have a disclaimer pop up whenever I start the car about the risks of non-attentive driving.
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