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#1709706 - 09/23/09 08:26 PM Newbie...
JayKel23
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Sorry for the length of this post but I would really like some advice...

Okay guys...i am 19 and just got my first car... 2001 Toyota Camry in excellent condition...came from an elderly lady so its in great condition \:\)

i am a music freak but know squat about car audio...i did research and found everything i want for my first system while keepin it in my budget...(college student)

Kenwood KDC-MP642U (Headunit)

Kenwood KFC-1682IE 6.5-Inch 240-Watt Max Power 3-way (front)

Kenwood KFC-6982IE 6-Inch x 9-Inch 500-Watt Max Power 5-Wa(rear)

Package: 2 KENWOOD KFC-W3012 (12 inch 1200 Watt Subwoofers) & 1 KENWOOD KAC-8104D (Mono Channel Amplifier)

first...i heard both sets of speakers and the subs...i like what i heard...now...what kind of box would i need...i dont want the loud annoying boomin bass but i do want a nice punch that you can hear from a mile away and i like the see-through look...bandpass??

second...i want a second amp for my front and rear speakers...of coarse i want it to be kenwood but if i get a 2 channel amp will i be able to have the fading control between the front and rear speakers?? if so...what kenwood amp do u suggest?? (2 channel or 4 channel)

thrid...my model of camry has tweeters in the panels adjacent to the sideview mirrors...i kno even less about tweeters...shoud i leave tha stock tweeters there?? and how will they connect to a dual amp setup??

fourth...i have no idea about the alternator but from what i've read...the idea of a capacitor makes me feel more comfortable about the install but i need to kno how helpful are they?? for every 1000 watts is .5 enough to have??

last...how can i get my trunk lookin like this... is this called a flush mounted bandpass box??

http://a134.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/113/l_1e3524e4c5d732a0af4035d776e2aab5.jpg

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#1709709 - 09/23/09 08:40 PM Re: Newbie... [Re: JayKel23]
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first - you won't be heard a mile away, so just forget about that requirement. \:\) also, avoid the plexi bandpass boxes, they are for looks, not performance. build a ported box for those subs - to the mfr specs. or buy one of the boxes in Murph's Classifieds thread.

Second - you lose your fader with a two channel amp powering front and rear speakers. buy a 4 channel amp since they are more flexible anyway. just pick one in your price range.

third - tweeters produce high frequencies. their location is important. i don't recommend using coaxial speakers (2-way or 3-way) in those doors. buy a component set - it will come with separate woofers and tweeters and a passive crossover. install the new component tweeters in the factory tweeter locations. some minor modifications may be required - get used to making modifications. also, remove your door panel and verify how much mounting depth you actually have - and make sure the new speakers are not too deep.

fourth - you don't need a cap, it won't help. you need good power wire - 4 awg minimum, and you need to do the big 3 (engine wiring upgrade). you won't have enough power to warrant a new alt.

last - you can pay a professional installer to get a trunk like that. if you want to build it yourself, it can be done. but it requires a high level of fabrication skills, patience, and a good work shop.

just because there is plexi does not mean it's a bandpass box. a sealed or ported box can have the back made out of plexi instead of wood. if you insist on having plexi that is visible from the trunk you can make a custom box with subs firing forward (through rear seat opening) and make the back of the box out of thick plexi. note that the material required for the fabrication will cost more than your speakers and subs combined.

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#1709710 - 09/23/09 08:42 PM Re: Newbie... [Re: keep_hope_alive]
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and lest we not forget -

Welcome to Sound Domain. we're glad you're here. asking questions is the first step. we can give you lots of help. there is a great deal of information on here. start by looking at the different sections, the threads on top that don't move are called "sticky's" and contain answers to common questions (like caps and the big 3).

look at Team Sound Domain and Sound Domain Show Off for great detailed pics of installations. it will get you thinking and show you what and how.

my signature has very useful links. you should start viewing and reading. feel free to ask as many questions as you want, we're glad to help.

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#1709717 - 09/23/09 08:50 PM Re: Newbie... [Re: keep_hope_alive]
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 Originally Posted By: keep_hope_alive
first - you won't be heard a mile away, so just forget about that requirement. \:\) also, avoid the plexi bandpass boxes, they are for looks, not performance. build a ported box for those subs - to the mfr specs. or buy one of the boxes in Murph's Classifieds thread.

Second - you lose your fader with a two channel amp powering front and rear speakers. buy a 4 channel amp since they are more flexible anyway. just pick one in your price range.

third - tweeters produce high frequencies. their location is important. i don't recommend using coaxial speakers (2-way or 3-way) in those doors. buy a component set - it will come with separate woofers and tweeters and a passive crossover. install the new component tweeters in the factory tweeter locations. some minor modifications may be required - get used to making modifications. also, remove your door panel and verify how much mounting depth you actually have - and make sure the new speakers are not too deep.

fourth - you don't need a cap, it won't help. you need good power wire - 4 awg minimum, and you need to do the big 3 (engine wiring upgrade). you won't have enough power to warrant a new alt.

last - you can pay a professional installer to get a trunk like that. if you want to build it yourself, it can be done. but it requires a high level of fabrication skills, patience, and a good work shop.

just because there is plexi does not mean it's a bandpass box. a sealed or ported box can have the back made out of plexi instead of wood. if you insist on having plexi that is visible from the trunk you can make a custom box with subs firing forward (through rear seat opening) and make the back of the box out of thick plexi. note that the material required for the fabrication will cost more than your speakers and subs combined.


so i wont be heard from a mile away?...i guess i can live wit that... so there is a possiblity speakers wont fit even if they are the correct circumference?? what componet sets are good...i heard some awsome alpines but would rather have keenwood although i have not seen many kenwood component sets...and with componenets isnt it a mid-range and a tweeter??

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#1709727 - 09/23/09 09:14 PM Re: Newbie... [Re: JayKel23]
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if you want to be heard a mile away, remove your rear seat, build a wall, install 8 large, high power subs and spend a couple grand on amps. \:\)

yes, just because the speaker is 6.5" in diameter, the depth is the important factor. most factory speakers are only 1.5" or so deep. most aftermarket speakers are more than 2" deep. each vehicle is different and has different depth requirements. Crutchfield has a good list of speakers that fit. you can shop there and enter your vehicle. they sell Kenwood component sets too. or the local shop you are going to buy from can tell you.

a midrange is a driver that does not produce bass, and typically rated 100-6,000 Hz. a component set has a woofer that is capable of 45-4,000 Hz, typically, and available from 5" to 15". a subwoofer is designed for low bass, down to and below 30Hz and typically larger in size, 8" to 18".

how can one 15" be a woofer and another be a subwoofer? design. a woofer is usually capable of midrange frequencies, a subwoofer is not.

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#1709729 - 09/23/09 09:18 PM Re: Newbie... [Re: keep_hope_alive]
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http://www.crutchfield.com/p_113KFCP708/Kenwood-KFC-P708.html?tp=106

this is a fair price for front speakers. they are the most important speakers in the car. they are closest to you and produce most of the music you hear.

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#1709734 - 09/23/09 09:24 PM Re: Newbie... [Re: keep_hope_alive]
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if you don't think you can afford them, you can. instead of buying new rear 6x9's, buy these. remove the rear 6x9's and that will let more bass through from the trunk. rear deck speakers are distorted by subs anyway. if anything, buy 6.5" coaxial speakers and put them in the rear 6x9 locations but put them in a small box so the subs won't affect them. the only reason to run 6x9's is if you don't have subs at all.
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#1713519 - 10/02/09 11:22 AM Re: Newbie... [Re: keep_hope_alive]
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remove the rear speakers to let more bass come thru from the subs? sounds liek a good idea
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#1730823 - 11/12/09 01:04 PM Re: Newbie... [Re: funcrusherplus]
lostinlove
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yes bro it is a good idea.
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