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#1701920 - 09/03/09 09:20 PM maybe an amp problem? Looking for help/advice
jbirdwsk
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Have a 2 channel amp I'm not sure is good, well the power light comes on, and it doesn't switch to protected mode. Any ways here's the run down. I was given a box with 2 subs and 2 amps on it, the 4 channel amp is powering my 6.5 and 5x7 great. I was getting sound from the subs, but it just stopped. The amp was still in power mode, I unhooked everything and pulled the subs out to check the wiring inside the box, it looks good. Subs are 12" Performance Teknique if that helps at all. I picked up a Polk DB enclousure today. The one with the plastic front and big port hole down the middle. I'm somewhat worried the 2 channel amp might have killed the 12"s. I hooked another amp up and got no sound at all from either. I know I had them wired right original, a good ground and 8ga power wire. The amp's supposedly 600 watts watts so it's not super powerful.

I don't want to hook up the Polk box and have the amp kill the speakers. But also I don't want to run out and buy a new amp if this one's still good. What can I do here to test the amp? I still don't know if the amp did something to the old speakers or they were bad from when I got them. I just know when I picked them up they definitely worked for a day or 2.

Ideas anyone? Thanks \:\)
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#1701924 - 09/03/09 09:32 PM Re: maybe an amp problem? Looking for help/advice [Re: jbirdwsk]
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Check to see if the tinsel wire separated on the sub. Sometimes visually looking at the sub might not work so it is better to run a continuity test on the speaker with a multimeter to if you have resistance. No noise indicates an open circuit.

What model subs do you have and are they dual voice coil? What ohms?
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#1701926 - 09/03/09 09:45 PM Re: maybe an amp problem? Looking for help/advice [Re: highend64]
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 Originally Posted By: highend64
Check to see if the tinsel wire separated on the sub. Sometimes visually looking at the sub might not work so it is better to run a continuity test on the speaker with a multimeter to if you have resistance. No noise indicates an open circuit.

What model subs do you have and are they dual voice coil? What ohms?


Thanks for the reply I will do that first thing tomorrow. I know this might be a broad, unanswerable question here but I'll shoot just so I know for sure. If I had blown the speakers, they should still technically work right? I blew my Kicker and it sounded like crap, but sound still came from it. 2nd possibly dumb question. Can an amp that has problems totally kill speakers? I got the Polks for a great deal ($100) and I tested them with his amp and they worked beautifully. But I don't want to hook them up *if* my amp can do anything to them.

http://techronics.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_id=760&aff=72182

Performance Teknique ICBM-5712 - those are the subs I have, might be a newer model here, but they look identical. The html link has the exact specs. I don't care much about them, I just want to find out if hooking up the Polks to this amp can lead to any problems.
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#1701929 - 09/03/09 09:58 PM Re: maybe an amp problem? Looking for help/advice [Re: jbirdwsk]
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What amp did you use for the subs? Are both not working or just one? How were they wired?
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CDM-9803
JBL P80.2 main amp
Alpine SPS-500 front speakers
Atomic AT-1500.1D sub amp
Diamond Audio 10" D3v1 in a 1.25 cu.ft. ported box
tuned to 33hz.

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#1701938 - 09/03/09 10:44 PM Re: maybe an amp problem? Looking for help/advice [Re: highend64]
jbirdwsk
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The amp is a Performance Teknique 772. Both subs aren't working, but I'm not 100% when my system was up both were actually working, I only had the stereo working going for about 30 minutes, after that I had a battery drain so my system has been disconnected since. Doing the Big 3 this weekend. I don't remember 100% but when I took the subs out of the box, I think they were wired positive to positive and negative to negative, and the wire ran to the cup on the back of the box - not sure what you call that thing, but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.
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#1701941 - 09/03/09 10:57 PM Re: maybe an amp problem? Looking for help/advice [Re: jbirdwsk]
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Where you running in bridged mode or one sub per channel? That thing is called a speaker terminal cup.
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CDM-9803
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Alpine SPS-500 front speakers
Atomic AT-1500.1D sub amp
Diamond Audio 10" D3v1 in a 1.25 cu.ft. ported box
tuned to 33hz.

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#1701953 - 09/04/09 12:57 AM Re: maybe an amp problem? Looking for help/advice [Re: highend64]
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Was running one sub per channel, the subs aren't bridged. The Polks though are bridged, just one terminal cup on the side of the box. I didn't wire the subs to the box, when I picked it up I just assumed since it had already been used that everything was connected right. But, I don't know enough about amps to know if I can mess up the new ones. That's if there is something wrong with the amp. I'm not sure how to test it. Even without a deep understanding, the fuses in the amp should blow if there's an electrical problem with my system right? Which would mean the new subs should be fine, so long as I hook up the wiring right?

I'm trying to learn here so I have enough knowledge to know what and what not to do. Thanks for your help.

I might get brave and hook up the Polks tomorrow, unless you respond back otherwise that is lol.
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#1701956 - 09/04/09 01:48 AM Re: maybe an amp problem? Looking for help/advice [Re: jbirdwsk]
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Try connecting the Polk to one of the channels on the amp. Verify to see id their is any sound. If there is no sound then you might have bad output circuit which mean you need to have it repaired or replace with a new amp.

The fuses on the are their to protect the amp from shorting and in which case you do not.
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88 Honda Accord

Alpine
CDM-9803
JBL P80.2 main amp
Alpine SPS-500 front speakers
Atomic AT-1500.1D sub amp
Diamond Audio 10" D3v1 in a 1.25 cu.ft. ported box
tuned to 33hz.

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#1702053 - 09/04/09 09:47 AM Re: maybe an amp problem? Looking for help/advice [Re: highend64]
jbirdwsk
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Ok, I'll try that after I do my Big 3 upgrade today. Not to sound like a broken record, but is it possible at all for me to damage the Polks just by hooking the amp up to them? My logic says no, but for some reason I'm worried here.
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#1702095 - 09/04/09 10:49 AM Re: maybe an amp problem? Looking for help/advice [Re: jbirdwsk]
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No, it won't hurt to hook them up, it will simply reveal if there is another problem or not.
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