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#1497526 - 24/09/08 06:35 AM No baffle + back wave = no bass?
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So my friend was telling me about this "system" he saw. Said the guy had a Kicker SoloX. Apparently, before he put it in the box, he laid it on the seat, hooked up, and played. From what I understand, this would produce almost no bass at all, yet he said the sub was "rattling his brain" with it like that. BS or no?
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#1497609 - 24/09/08 08:13 AM Re: No baffle + back wave = no bass? [Re: KickerLovinCorolla]
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i think your friend hasn't been exposed to a truly loud set up that will make you unable to see straight.
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#1497611 - 24/09/08 08:18 AM Re: No baffle + back wave = no bass? [Re: MA585]
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I think you are right. I just need to say fack it and buy two 18" BTLs. That'll set him straight... \:p
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2006 Toyota Corolla LE
-Jensen VM9312 DVD Player HU
-(2) 12" Kicker CVX Subs
- Kicker KS6502 Components
- Kicker ZX1000.1 Amp
- Kicker ZX350.4 Amp
- KnuKonceptz Ultra Fleks 1/0, 4 AWG Wiring/Accessories
- RAAMaudio

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#1497612 - 24/09/08 08:18 AM Re: No baffle + back wave = no bass? [Re: KickerLovinCorolla]
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It will produce sound, with no crossover on it playing music, it would produce music, It would not produce true subbass. Physics kind of get in the way of that.
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#1497618 - 24/09/08 08:21 AM Re: No baffle + back wave = no bass? [Re: MA585]
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#1497773 - 24/09/08 11:48 AM Re: No baffle + back wave = no bass? [Re: TtownCLS]
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But I mean, isn't this the idea behind an IB setup? Completely seperate the front of the sub from the back? And with the smaller speakers in doors? Midbass repsonse?
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2006 Toyota Corolla LE
-Jensen VM9312 DVD Player HU
-(2) 12" Kicker CVX Subs
- Kicker KS6502 Components
- Kicker ZX1000.1 Amp
- Kicker ZX350.4 Amp
- KnuKonceptz Ultra Fleks 1/0, 4 AWG Wiring/Accessories
- RAAMaudio

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#1497795 - 24/09/08 12:18 PM Re: No baffle + back wave = no bass? [Re: KickerLovinCorolla]
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You got it. Complete isolation of the front wave from the back wave is the goal. If the two meet, you get cancellation to some extent.
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#1498296 - 25/09/08 06:58 AM Re: No baffle + back wave = no bass? [Re: TtownCLS]
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yup.

if you check team build logs, you'll see we even put these silicone deflex pads behind the speakers. that's to prevent the back wave from reflecting back and going through the cone.

my favorite speakers were the B&W nautilus speakers. that's one way to take care of the backwave:

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