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#1476579 - 08/21/08 03:40 PM Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update
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As many of you know, Car Audio Nationals was planning on co-locating with IASCA at their World Finals. With IASCA moving their finals to SBN, we were sorta up in the air.

Just wanted to let you know that we will be doing a TKE in Atlanta that same weekend along with MECA State Finals and a USACi Event. I am still finalizing all of the details, but we should have everything put in place by next week.

With that in mind, Arc Audio has stepped up and agreed to present the event.

Remember, CAN has a 3500 dollar prize purse available!!!

We have reserved some inside spaces for SQ Competitors.

We are keeping the registration fees VERY reasonable. Probably the lowest of the season for a large show. We want to draw as many folks as possible.

Anybody interested?
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#1484595 - 09/02/08 10:44 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Ben Vollmer]
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#1484672 - 09/03/08 06:27 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Cookin18s]
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J, is this the event you messaged me about the other night?...
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#1484691 - 09/03/08 07:08 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: bikinpunk]
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I believe all of Team SoundDomain will be at this show.
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#1484697 - 09/03/08 07:31 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Foam]
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Sept 20th?

That's the weekend of my b'day. Would like to make it, but will probably have plans.
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#1484714 - 09/03/08 08:13 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: bikinpunk]
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make plans in atlanta. have them involve you competing in a show. let a cousin pay your entry fee as a gift. compete in every organization since he's footing the bill. \:D
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#1484719 - 09/03/08 08:21 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Thumper26]
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cousin? How about brother?...


We'll see. Heck, right now I don't even have midbasses. Hope the 12m's can play to 63hz. \:o

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#1484786 - 09/03/08 09:47 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: bikinpunk]
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at this point, my vote is you have a speaker wired out of phase.
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#1484895 - 09/03/08 10:59 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Thumper26]
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Checked. Nope.

Even with midbass only.
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#1485415 - 09/04/08 11:50 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: bikinpunk]
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I really don't get why you can't get the Dyns to work. I have heard cars with those speakers that will shake your soul. Seriously. Somewhere you are doing something wrong either in the setup or installation of those speakers.

hell just look at Thumper's car with those same drivers. A bit of work and I'd turn his subs off.
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#1485449 - 09/04/08 12:18 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Foam]
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Maybe there was something wrong with the install. Maybe it’s my car. After J himself did the install they still weren’t doing jack. There’s a lot of possibilities.

I got them to work eventually. Actually, after I removed the Alpines I dropped the Dyns back in. I had re-done the speaker rings/install. The dyns came to life then, but the f1’s still had more impact.

At this point, I’m hoping to get with Scott and do an AP install with the 4ohm Scans. After that, I’m done. I don’t care what it sounds like, it’ll get tuned and I’m rolling with it. I’m just ready to see my car put back together and in one piece again.
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#1485455 - 09/04/08 12:24 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: bikinpunk]
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Have you spoken with Scott about doing an AP enclosure inside your door? I know that sounds easy---but it isn't. Ricky's doors are the way you want to do that, but he has the ability and the access to equipment/technology that allow him to make it easy.

I've done it the wood/fiberglass way. It isn't fun at all.

It would be easier to do floorpods, cut the floor open and vent them that way. You also wouldn't have to deal with door panels anymore.
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#1485459 - 09/04/08 12:26 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Foam]
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...and you'd be modex+ in MECA, along with Andy and Steve Cook. Just something to think about. \:\)
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#1485479 - 09/04/08 12:36 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Thumper26]
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 Originally Posted By: Foam
Have you spoken with Scott about doing an AP enclosure inside your door? I know that sounds easy---but it isn't. Ricky's doors are the way you want to do that, but he has the ability and the access to equipment/technology that allow him to make it easy.

I've done it the wood/fiberglass way. It isn't fun at all.

It would be easier to do floorpods, cut the floor open and vent them that way. You also wouldn't have to deal with door panels anymore.



I sent him an e-mail a couple days ago and asked if he’d be able to help me with it. He said he could. That’s really the extent of the talking. I’ve read a few tutorials on doing AP enclosures and understand the logic behind them. It’s just the fabrication that I’m concerned with, as you pointed out. Especially having never done it before. You know that I suck at fabrication; that’s obvious. So I definitely need some guidance, but am willing to do anything I can so I can learn how to do it.

Floorpods: You really think it’d be easier? I would think it’d be harder to do that route. When you say ‘vent’ is that not, in a sense, free-airing them? Surely you’re not meaning that as you’ve said never to IB them. \:confused\: I would think it’d be harder to put them in the floor area: I’d have to protect the speakers from the elements, and another issue would be making sure they’re protected yet can pass sound. Getting up into 200hz the wavelength shortens and it seems to me that would be an issue, where it wouldn’t be with subwoofer frequencies. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding you here. ?


 Originally Posted By: Thumper26
...and you'd be modex+ in MECA, along with Andy and Steve Cook. Just something to think about. \:\)



Man, I don’t care, honestly. I’m already in that just due to the 3-way alone. Truthfully, I don’t expect to win. My car is more of a daily driver type setup. I do, however, want to compete so that I can get it sounding better and better. Maybe eventually get to the point where I can ‘compete’ with Andy and Steve, but you know me well enough to know I’m not stressing over that right now. ;\)



I'm just ready to finish putting this car together. I'm about to buy land, and I've got to start saving for a house. The sooner I can get the car wrapped up, the sooner I can start devoting my budget to something more useful than my car. I'm sure you guys understand. I really just want to be able to drive to a comp, put my car in, hang out with you guys, get some tips on how to make things better, and come back home. That's the real goal for me. Not to go out and win comps; just to enjoy the hobby instead of using all my available time working on it.
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#1485498 - 09/04/08 01:04 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: bikinpunk]
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i think right now you're still modified. you haven't cut metal.

i think andy meant the dyns in kicks, not the scans.
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#1485500 - 09/04/08 01:06 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Thumper26]
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Dyns are already gone. ;\)


I pulled up Matt Robert's install on DIY. If Andy was talking about doing something like Matt has, then I see it. Matt's floorpods are still AP vented. I really, really like the idea of moving the midbasses out of the doors but I don't think I have the real estate in the floor.
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#1485525 - 09/04/08 02:16 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: bikinpunk]
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Mine are done like Matt's are done. They hammer. That is exactly what I was talking about. If my car has the room for that, so does yours. It just takes the ability to cut the floor, and then mold it in.

I hope you didn't trade the Dyns for those F#1's \:o
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#1485713 - 09/04/08 06:50 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Foam]
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I really need to figure out a way to get myself and the accord down there for the show. Even if I don't compete (which I highly doubt I would)
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#1485717 - 09/04/08 06:55 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Foam]
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 Originally Posted By: Foam
Mine are done like Matt's are done. They hammer. That is exactly what I was talking about. If my car has the room for that, so does yours. It just takes the ability to cut the floor, and then mold it in.

I hope you didn't trade the Dyns for those F#1's \:o


Nah, I kept the Dyns for a while, but after the F1's messed up I needed to sell the Dyns to get Scans. *shrugs*
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#1485946 - 09/05/08 06:36 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: bikinpunk]
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Oh, Andy, did you do that install yourself or was that something you had Jeff do? If you have build pics I’d like to see them.

I’m curious how you protect them from your feet. I’m VERY bad about shoving my feet into the floorboard when I drive so I can sit up and get situated. I have to shift around a lot when I drive b/c of my back so I’d worry about shoving my foot into the speaker if it’s anywhere in that vicinity.
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#1486365 - 09/05/08 04:58 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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 Originally Posted By: Scott P
I really need to figure out a way to get myself and the accord down there for the show. Even if I don't compete (which I highly doubt I would)


It's a Honda! Don't tell me it won't make it. Bring it on over. Besides, I never got to hear that disc you were talking about that would rival the Pirates CD's on dynamics.
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#1486382 - 09/05/08 06:04 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: TtownCLS]
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oh the car would make it, not sure the processor would, and I know the new one won't arrive by then.

As for the cd, you know i already forgoot which cd i was telling you about, although I found another one I wouldn't mind playing with in a few cars.
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#1486386 - 09/05/08 06:11 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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Bring it anyway. I'll bring my backup 701 for you. Bring those discs too! I'm all about some new music to listen to.
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#1486399 - 09/05/08 06:50 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: TtownCLS]
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ok for some reason i was thinking the show was the 13th. Hmmm I may be able to pull this off afterall. Downside is if i conme that pretty much garantees I won't be going to AL state finals.


Anyone want to share a room in ATL?
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#1486446 - 09/05/08 09:58 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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i'm sure you can split a room with someone. just get there and worry about the details then.
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#1486708 - 09/06/08 05:35 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Thumper26]
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anyone have the itenerary of what is going on on what days? or is everything going to be crammed into that one saturday?
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#1486713 - 09/06/08 05:50 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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^nevermind somehow i had been overlooking it on the CAN site.
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#1486873 - 09/07/08 09:22 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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Scott,

I'm going to figure out rooms this week sometime. I think we have myself, Rick, Thumper, Steve, Robert and you so far that will need a room. Maybe Ben also, but not sure on that yet. I don't think any of the Schil guys are going besides Kirk and Dave--they usually stay with the Zapco people---but I'll be checking with them.
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#1486878 - 09/07/08 09:58 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Foam]
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Cool. Although it's still not a for sure thing that I am going to be able to go yet b/c of work. I should know for sure by the end of monday, so I'll let you know if I can make it.
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#1487020 - 09/07/08 06:15 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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Ok, let me know when you do. Worst case scenerio you sleep with Ben \:o
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#1487204 - 09/08/08 08:18 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Foam]
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 Originally Posted By: Foam
Ok, let me know when you do. Worst case scenerio you sleep with Ben \:o


LOL. My wife hasn't had any issues sleeping with me for the past ten years. :-)
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#1487880 - 09/09/08 08:10 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Ben Vollmer]
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Hey Ben do I need to preregister to be inside if all I am competing in is Meca?
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#1488272 - 09/09/08 04:30 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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I just reread the thread here, and have come to realize that I have no will power. Now, does anyone want to teach me how to tune so i can finally end my role as jonathan's whipping boy?

lol...kinda
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#1488280 - 09/09/08 04:59 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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show up the night before.

also, erin is having a bbq this weekend saturday night. you could def get some help then.
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#1488281 - 09/09/08 05:00 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Foam]
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 Originally Posted By: Foam
I don't think any of the Schil guys are going besides Kirk and Dave


What am I, chopped liver?

Ill be there for MECA SQ but Ill drive down the day of the show.
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#1488286 - 09/09/08 05:19 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: MacLeod]
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Anyone heard who is doing the MECA judging yet?
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#1488355 - 09/09/08 07:21 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: MacLeod]
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 Originally Posted By: MacLeod
 Originally Posted By: Foam
I don't think any of the Schil guys are going besides Kirk and Dave


What am I, chopped liver?

Ill be there for MECA SQ but Ill drive down the day of the show.


We were wondering if you were coming.

 Originally Posted By: Scott P
Anyone heard who is doing the MECA judging yet?


Pretty sure it's David, and Kirk. I'm just guessing based on the judges listed on the CAN site.
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#1488424 - 09/09/08 09:26 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: TtownCLS]
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i know kirk is competing in CAN. i dunno if he's a judge or not.
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#1488493 - 09/09/08 10:28 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Thumper26]
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Judges:
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#1489693 - 09/11/08 07:29 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Rick Sellers]
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For MECA David Hogan, Kirk Proffit and Richard Paladino will be judging SQ. Adam Gladden will be heading up the SPL lanes.

Edited by MacLeod (09/11/08 07:29 PM)
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#1489707 - 09/11/08 08:01 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: MacLeod]
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i'm excited. this show is going to be great for getting ready for finals.
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#1490379 - 09/12/08 07:58 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Thumper26]
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I am starting to get antsy I am so ready for this show, even if the new processor doesn't get here in time, I think I have figured out a bandaid. Now as for tuning, let's hope that Jonathan didn't lie to me about how to use an RTA . . . lol
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#1490386 - 09/12/08 08:15 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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He would never lie. :-) Just not tell the whole truth. :-)
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#1490392 - 09/12/08 08:20 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Ben Vollmer]
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That's why I called Mr. Hogan to confirm. . .
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#1490846 - 09/14/08 04:39 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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i'm hurt...
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#1490852 - 09/14/08 04:58 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Thumper26]
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wait till you hear the accord

edit: I honestly don't think it could possibly sound any worse than it did at ESN (before andy attempted to fix it.

Edited by Scott P (09/14/08 06:34 PM)
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#1490885 - 09/14/08 06:45 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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like i've said all season, i'm just waiting on that thing to show up and kick azz.

i'll see you next saturday...
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#1490890 - 09/14/08 07:05 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Thumper26]
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lol me too, actually I'll settle for it working correctly at al for an entire show.


on an unrelated note I am really enticed by the idea of entering CAN 1 seat right now. . .
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Getting Excited!!! Spent this weekend buying things for the show like water, clipboards, etc... :-)

As of now the list of competitors includes:
Andy Jones
Benjamin D. Sales
Brett Nelker
Brian Mays
Chris Pate
Darren A Alcorn
Daryl Trammel
Dave Brooks
Eddie DeJesus
Eric Parker
Jake Duda
Jeff Kidwell
Joe Karpus
Joe Zelano
John Marsh
julius pyles
Kentus Abraham
Kirk Proffitt
Lee Chavers
Mark Eldridge
Matt Roberts
Micah A. Boozer
Milton Fisher
Randy Eddy
Rick Sellers
Robert Petty
Robert S Riles
Ron Baker
Scott Paterson
Scott Ward
Steven Head (Unknown)
Tom Shaw

CAN 1 and 2 Seat should be a TON of fun. It is VERY exciting to have all three major Sound organizations represented with triple point shows!
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#1490990 - 09/15/08 05:20 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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 Originally Posted By: Scott P
on an unrelated note I am really enticed by the idea of entering CAN 1 seat right now. . .

yeah i'm still undecided about it. i wasn't happy with my car on Sunday, although it did pretty well. We'll see how it sounds by the weekend, and I'll go from there. Seeing that list of names makes me want to jump in though.
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#1491020 - 09/15/08 06:31 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Thumper26]
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I know what you mean.


Ben are there going to be trophies for top 10 in each class? if so that might be the straw that breaks the camels back for me (i'm so petty)
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Scott-
We are doing trophies for the top 5. I have a VERY cool "gift" for the next 5 that I would take rather than a trophy. :-) Depending on how many register, everybody may get one or you may have your choice of one of two gifts. \:\)

I am not a trophy whore personally. :-) 99% of mine end up back in the show promoter's hands. But we will make it worth your while!

If you THINK you are going to do it, I HAVE to know about CAN by Thursday. That allows me to build out the judging grids. :-) So everybody knows when they are being judged. :-)
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#1491037 - 09/15/08 07:11 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Ben Vollmer]
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ben, i'll be letting you know if I'm in at the last minute. When you say by Thursday, do you mean by midnight on Thursday, or what? \:\)
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#1491060 - 09/15/08 08:00 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Thumper26]
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I have already reserved the 3rd place trophy for you in all organizations. :-)

I will be doing the judging matrix on Friday at Noon. The Check Out Page comes down when I feel like it On Thursday. If you want in tenatively, send me an email to Ben (at) VollmerCentral.com and I will put you on the list. Easier to take you off than add you. :-)
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#1491065 - 09/15/08 08:10 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Ben Vollmer]
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Ben, thanks for the vote of confidence. \:bd\:

If I get 3rd in CAN 1 seat with those people competing, I'll be more than good, esp with getting money back. \:o
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#1491768 - 09/15/08 07:15 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Thumper26]
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Ben, I'll shoot you an email as well, but tentatively plan on myself doing CAN 1 seat. I'm not positive yet that I will do it as now that I've sat and listened to the car for a few days I just get the feeling that something is horribly wrong (no jokes there Jonathan), but I wanna cover myself incase I get the cojones to enter.
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#1492565 - 09/16/08 06:38 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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BTW.... Only CAN 1 Seat and 2 Seat Closes on Thursday. MECA, IASCA and USACi can register right up to the opening on Sat online and then in person at the show. We look forward to seeing you!
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#1492580 - 09/16/08 08:21 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Ben Vollmer]
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Registered for Meca and CAN 1 seat. Now it's time to explain to the wife why she won't be seeing me again til sunday . . . .
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#1493746 - 09/18/08 11:59 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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 Originally Posted By: Scott P
Registered for Meca and CAN 1 seat. Now it's time to explain to the wife why she won't be seeing me again til sunday . . . .


She may enjoy not seeing you. Mine does. \:\)
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#1493819 - 09/18/08 12:43 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Ben Vollmer]
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Do you have any info or links for the sunday shows?
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#1493831 - 09/18/08 12:50 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: jacksonp]
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Sunday will be for IASCA and USACi. :-)
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#1493838 - 09/18/08 01:04 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Ben Vollmer]
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wife? \:confused\:

oh yeah, that thing i had BEFORE i started competing... \:o
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#1493845 - 09/18/08 01:12 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Ben Vollmer]
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Thats true. IASCA's link to the event wont work. Just looking for some more info.
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#1493851 - 09/18/08 01:16 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: jacksonp]
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IASCA and USACi are both having a 3x event. As is MECA. So all three major SQ organizations wll be there. Same entry fees for all three. MECA and CAN SQ on Sat. IASCA and USACi on Sunday. \:\)
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#1493877 - 09/18/08 01:36 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Ben Vollmer]
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Thanks Ben. Are you going to be around Sunday? If so, I'll see you then.

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#1494131 - 09/18/08 07:18 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Thumper26]
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 Originally Posted By: Thumper26
wife? \:confused\:

oh yeah, that thing i had BEFORE i started competing... \:o


heh, I may be joining that team soon. Not sure how supportive the preggerz wife will be for any more of the multiple days out of town type shows.

Maybe I oughtta schedule SBN and try to explain that I might miss the birth of our child . . . .
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#1494188 - 09/18/08 08:36 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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wow, yeah i wouldn't go that far. your marriage isn't worth it, esp with your car... ;\)
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#1494201 - 09/18/08 09:12 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Thumper26]
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 Originally Posted By: Thumper26
wow, yeah i wouldn't go that far. your marriage isn't worth it, esp with your lack of tuning skills... ;\)


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#1494212 - 09/18/08 09:59 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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lol, i can't argue when you make fun of yourself.

seriously, the pink noise disc isn't that hard to use... \:confused\:
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#1494214 - 09/18/08 10:05 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Thumper26]
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it is when I discover I have a few problems locating most frequencies over 4k. that and I am pretty sure I have no idea what i am doing. I suppose I could read a few threads here and there to fix that, but it's more fun to wing it and hope for the best.
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#1494258 - 09/19/08 05:42 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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#1494261 - 09/19/08 05:46 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Thumper26]
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lol are you coming down to Atl tonight or tomorrow?
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#1494264 - 09/19/08 05:49 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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#1494268 - 09/19/08 05:53 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Thumper26]
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i actually did most of what you were talking about last night, and got everything fixed up and tight, I think. I'm sure there are some fine tuning things that need to be done, but I really need a second set of ears to double check me. tonight ought to be interesting to see if I invoke the look of fear on Andy or not.
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#1495763 - 09/21/08 08:48 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Thumper26]
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The show was really great, thanks to all that came out to support the show, I had a great time competing, and it was awesome to see everyone there! I can't wait for next year!
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#1495910 - 09/22/08 05:13 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: JDAccord]
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#1495917 - 09/22/08 05:41 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: bikinpunk]
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i have some, they just need to be uploaded. the place had the same lighting as elite, so all the indoor pics are yellow looking.

There were some INCREDIBLE cars. I finally got to see Mark Eldridge's Nascar. The thing is insane.
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#1495919 - 09/22/08 05:42 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: JDAccord]
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w3rd. Dude, get them up when you can, and if you have it, post results... on DIY, too. I'd like to see how everyone finished. And even you... ughhhh....

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#1495924 - 09/22/08 05:58 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: bikinpunk]
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I came in 2nd in Street+ by 1.2 points to Aaron. I got prolly some of the best criticism of my car all year, and have some clear paths on what to do to fix the problems and make it better. I'm undecided on going to AL state finals, but if I do hopefully it'll be a lot more on.

In CAN, I came in 4th place. I couldn't believe it. They were calling out the names and when they got to the top 10, I assumed they overlooked mine. I was floored. That show really helped jumpstart me. It's been a crazy summer, and I was starting to lose focus. I'm all kinds of motivated right now.
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#1495928 - 09/22/08 06:07 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: JDAccord]
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I've got Can1 results, not sure on Can 2 since I, like J, was in complete shock to be in the top 10

1. Scott Ward
2. Joe Karpus
3. Kirk Proffit
4. Jonathan Denton
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#1495940 - 09/22/08 06:36 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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wtf... J, you beat Andy?! Does this mean his firepower is gone? I can't wait to hear the back-and-forths between you guys now. ;\)
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#1495942 - 09/22/08 06:38 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: JDAccord]
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 Originally Posted By: JDAccord
I came in 2nd in Street+ by 1.2 points to Aaron. I got prolly some of the best criticism of my car all year, and have some clear paths on what to do to fix the problems and make it better. I'm undecided on going to AL state finals, but if I do hopefully it'll be a lot more on.

In CAN, I came in 4th place. I couldn't believe it. They were calling out the names and when they got to the top 10, I assumed they overlooked mine. I was floored. That show really helped jumpstart me. It's been a crazy summer, and I was starting to lose focus. I'm all kinds of motivated right now.


Congrats!

use that motivation to show up to Boaz, man!
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#1495960 - 09/22/08 07:05 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: bikinpunk]
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wtf... J, you beat Andy?!
and matt roberts. and dave brooks. like i said, i truly thought they forgot to call my name.

not bad for only doing it for 5 months...
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#1496213 - 09/22/08 12:11 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: JDAccord]
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Great show, and good times. Big thanks to Ben for putting it all together.

It was a very strange weekend and one of the best all rolled up in one.
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#1496497 - 09/22/08 06:01 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: TtownCLS]
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 Originally Posted By: TtownCLS
Great show, and good times. Big thanks to Ben for putting it all together.

It was a very strange weekend and one of the best all rolled up in one.


I have to second that. A big thanks to Ben for putting together an amazing crew of judges, and organizing a spectacular show. I have to agree further about what a strange weekend, although I have to admit Richard Clark provided to of the funniest moments I think I can remember in all my years of car audio.
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#1496499 - 09/22/08 06:03 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: JDAccord]
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I had a great time at this show! Thanks to Ben for putting it on and keeping it all together. 4 different organizations, 400 or so cars, half inside the building and half out and it all ran smoothly.

Excellent job by David Hogan, Kirk Proffit and Richard "Never Likes My Car" Paladino for keeping up with everybody and an overall smooth and excellent job in judging.

Got to meet two of my heroes, Mark Eldridge and Richard Clark and go to listen to Mark's car which was the high point of the show.

Wanna say congratulations to Jonathan for laying the smack down in CAN. Dude, youve been competing for only 5 months and I can barely stay a point ahead of you in MECA and you wouldve slaughtered me if I did CAN. All I can say is I cant wait til next year when youre OUT OF MY CLASS! Youre making me a nervous wreck!

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#1496528 - 09/22/08 06:45 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: MacLeod]
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lol, i have a point to prove in MECA. i'm not leaving till i beat you and kirk.
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#1496543 - 09/22/08 07:14 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: JDAccord]
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Hats off to Ben for bringing this all together. Thanks to everyone for spending your hard earned cash to come to this show.

I don't know about ya'll but I was wore out Sunday.

k

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#1496547 - 09/22/08 07:19 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: AcuraTLSQ]
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What were the results for IASCA and USACi on Sunday??
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#1496552 - 09/22/08 07:22 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: MacLeod]
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Haven't seen the official IASCA results but I hear I did not do to well. USACi I won the class by over 20 points.

USACi Sound Quality





Intro Consumer

Jake Duda

50





Intro Professional

Brett Nelker

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Sound Q Consumer

Lee Chavers

137





Sound Q Professional

Kirk Proffit

203.5

Marc Vickers

181.5

Dave Brooks

168

Jack Everett

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Intermediate Professional

Dave Brooks

182

Daryll Trammel

171





Advanced Professional

Marc Vickers

367.5





Expert

Mark Eldridge

397

John Marsh

347.5

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#1496554 - 09/22/08 07:35 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: AcuraTLSQ]
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what is the Usaci scoresheet based on, 400 total points?


I ask in reference to Mark Eldridge's score

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I am not sure. Q is SQ only and the scores over 210 are the full comp with install. I think Q is 210-220 total. Andy should know exactly.
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#1496668 - 09/23/08 01:20 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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what is the Usaci scoresheet based on, 400 total points?


I ask in reference to Mark Eldridge's score


Advanced and Expert - 452
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#1496673 - 09/23/08 04:20 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Rick Sellers]
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Wow! Nice score Kirktus Estes Lavarious Proffitt JR. The Third. I hope I got the name right. \:D .
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#1496924 - 09/23/08 09:40 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: TtownCLS]
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looking over the results it reaffirms my thought that a stock car can sound just as good as a kickpanel/new dash car. Just needs more tuning.
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#1496928 - 09/23/08 09:47 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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One of my highlights of the weekend was when a judge got out of my car and asked me what midrange I was running. When I told him it was just a two way with 6.5's in the doors, he looked confused for a couple of seconds.

...then Dave got in and helped me point out everything I need to work on.
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#1496966 - 09/23/08 10:22 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: JDAccord]
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yeah Dave was more specific this weekend with his critiques that i can remember.. . .that or I finally understood the stuff he had been pointing out.
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#1497025 - 09/23/08 11:11 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: TtownCLS]
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Wow! Nice score Kirktus Estes Lavarious Proffitt JR. The Third. I hope I got the name right. \:D .



His car sounded awesome. And from the Pass side it even sounded good, which awesome. \:\)
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#1497181 - 09/23/08 02:09 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Ben Vollmer]
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Well we could just call him Kirkus Magnus. Or just Kong. Or we could call him 2nd in the points standings.



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Aaron's talking smack about points championship Where's Ricky \:o
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#1497330 - 09/23/08 07:32 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: MacLeod]
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 Originally Posted By: MacLeod
Well we could just call him Kirkus Magnus. Or just Kong. Or we could call him 2nd in the points standings.



It takes Steve a day or two to get my IASCA POINTS SHARING up. Enjoy it for the day I allowed it. \:D

I guess the car will play more than Spanish Harlem. From both seats.


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#1497337 - 09/23/08 07:38 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: AcuraTLSQ]
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 Originally Posted By: MacLeod
Well we could just call him Kirkus Magnus. Or just Kong. Or we could call him 2nd in the points standings.



It takes Steve a day or two to get my IASCA POINTS SHARING up. Enjoy it for the day I allowed it. \:D

I guess the car will play more than Spanish Harlem. From both seats.


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#1497341 - 09/23/08 07:40 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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yeah Dave was more specific this weekend with his critiques that i can remember.. . .that or I finally understood the stuff he had been pointing out.


When was the last time I judged your car?
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#1497348 - 09/23/08 07:57 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: SQrules]
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I thought I had you listen to it down in boaz a few months ago, but now that I really think about it, I think I was thinking of Vinnie whilst referencing you. Sorry.
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 Originally Posted By: MacLeod
Well we could just call him Kirkus Magnus. Or just Kong. Or we could call him 2nd in the points standings.



Great now KELP III is going to pull out a 92 or something outrageous of the sorts at finals to shut Aaron, Jonathon, and myself up. Thanks Aaron. \:confused\: \:D
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#1497355 - 09/23/08 08:17 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Foam]
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 Originally Posted By: Foam
Aaron's talking smack about points championship Where's Ricky \:o


If I remember right, Ive got up til the very last day of the season to talk smack.....then Ricky comes in.


And yes Im talking smack. This is the first time Ive ever been ahead of Kirk in anything......unless you count 2nd place finishes.

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#1497460 - 09/24/08 03:52 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: MacLeod]
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#1497481 - 09/24/08 05:27 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: MacLeod]
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 Originally Posted By: MacLeod
And yes Im talking smack. This is the first time Ive ever been ahead of Kirk in anything......unless you count 2nd place finishes.

um, i think i've got you beat there buddy... \:p
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#1497517 - 09/24/08 06:23 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: JDAccord]
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not... enough.... room... in .... thread.... for..... egos....

must..... break..... out......


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#1497715 - 09/24/08 10:39 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: bikinpunk]
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 Originally Posted By: bikinpunk
not... enough.... room... in .... thread.... for..... egos....

must..... break..... out......


\:D


We are just waiting on you to pick a class so we can SQ you into submission and make you call us 'daddy'.

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#1497725 - 09/24/08 10:43 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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Well we could just call him Kirkus Magnus. Or just Kong. Or we could call him 2nd in the points standings.



Great now KELP III is going to pull out a 92 or something outrageous of the sorts at finals to shut Aaron, Jonathon, and myself up. Thanks Aaron. \:confused\: \:D


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#1497761 - 09/24/08 11:21 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: AcuraTLSQ]
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Scott, it's spelled Jonathan.

Kirk, you're full of shyt and you know it. \:\)
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#1497769 - 09/24/08 11:43 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: AcuraTLSQ]
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 Originally Posted By: AcuraTLSQ
 Originally Posted By: MacLeod
Well we could just call him Kirkus Magnus. Or just Kong. Or we could call him 2nd in the points standings.



It takes Steve a day or two to get my IASCA POINTS SHARING up. Enjoy it for the day I allowed it. \:D

I guess the car will play more than Spanish Harlem. From both seats.


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#1497770 - 09/24/08 11:45 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: SQLAltima]
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I listened to Kirk's car on Sunday. Y'all better get your backsides in gear. He is VERY close to having something you never will... A Two Seat car. :-) His car was one of my favorites from the weekend... Now off your butts and start tuning. :-)
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#1497774 - 09/24/08 11:51 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Ben Vollmer]
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My car can seat five, what's your point? \:confused\:

Also, who cares what it sounds like to the passenger?
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#1497832 - 09/24/08 12:59 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: AcuraTLSQ]
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 Originally Posted By: AcuraTLSQ


We are just waiting on you to pick a class so we can SQ you into submission and make you call us 'daddy'.


Easy. My class is the one where I’m in over my head.

Hey… what’s up with 2 seat? Will that be in Boaz? I figure I’ll give that a shot, too.

Should get my car back Thursday, and I got some work to do. Screw tuning… I gotta get the deadener off my seats!
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#1497841 - 09/24/08 01:10 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: bikinpunk]
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 Originally Posted By: bikinpunk
Screw tuning

normally i'd say that's the wrong attitude, but in your case, you'll prolly end up doing better ;\)
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#1497842 - 09/24/08 01:12 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: JDAccord]
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ya never know. *shrugs*

I was somewhat kidding… placing emphasis on cleaning my car as it looks rough inside. I need to buy seat covers. Buying a car with tan interior was a huge mistake on my part.

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#1497886 - 09/24/08 02:06 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: bikinpunk]
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Just make window covers. That way they can't see the interior \:confused\:
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#1497892 - 09/24/08 02:09 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Foam]
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it's for myself. I haven't cleaned my car in months and it looks like a wreck with all sorts of bike tire scuffs and crap in the seats. \:\(


^ 2 seat at Boaz?
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#1497951 - 09/24/08 03:01 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: SQLAltima]
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 Originally Posted By: SQLAltima
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 Originally Posted By: MacLeod
Well we could just call him Kirkus Magnus. Or just Kong. Or we could call him 2nd in the points standings.



It takes Steve a day or two to get my IASCA POINTS SHARING up. Enjoy it for the day I allowed it. \:D

I guess the car will play more than Spanish Harlem. From both seats.


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Yours must have knocked himself out falling from the tree last weekend. I would have been scared to compete Sunday too.
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#1497980 - 09/24/08 03:40 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: bikinpunk]
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 Originally Posted By: bikinpunk
it's for myself. I haven't cleaned my car in months and it looks like a wreck with all sorts of bike tire scuffs and crap in the seats. \:\(


^ 2 seat at Boaz?


No SQ2 (2 Seat) at Boaz. It's inaugural event will be World Finals.
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#1497994 - 09/24/08 04:11 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: SQrules]
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and since I don't have enough competition points I couldn't enter World's could I?
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#1498026 - 09/24/08 04:52 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: bikinpunk]
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i don't think there is any way you could get them with only two big shows left in the season, and you being in modex+ with andy and steve.

however, you should still come. like andy put it, it's like playing basketball with jordan. it only makes you better. as much as i gripe about aaron and kirk, my car wouldn't sound near as good and i wouldn't know near as much as i do if i was in regular street. get as much exposure as you can and come out of the gate full force next season. you live too close to too many strong sq champs to not be a serious contender next year.
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#1498055 - 09/24/08 05:31 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: JDAccord]
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I'm coming either way. Just figured if I was making the trek I'd enter that one, too.

But, regardless, I'll be there. \:\)
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#1498058 - 09/24/08 05:35 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: JDAccord]
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There are 5 3X shows left. AL, SC, KY, TN, & IN state finals. Plenty of points left. You just have to travel.

Johnny-Why am I full of shyt? You spanked me on Saturday. I was the first one to make sure they didn't make a mistake. Just unlucky for you they dropped high and low. Otherwise you officialy won. I consider it a win for you. I told you congrats, shook your hand, partied with you Saturday night and everything.

I am sure next year I will get spanked several times before I get the Nitro right. Who knows, it may never be competitive or it may be killer. No way to tell.
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#1498075 - 09/24/08 05:54 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: AcuraTLSQ]
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I can make the TN state finals. The others are out, except maybe Shepherdsville, KY.

So, looks like the World's are definately out. But, I'll be there to hang out. Maybe I can catch a ride with someone? \:confused\:
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#1498084 - 09/24/08 06:20 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: AcuraTLSQ]
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 Originally Posted By: AcuraTLSQ
There are 5 3X shows left. AL, SC, KY, TN, & IN state finals. Plenty of points left. You just have to travel.

Johnny-Why am I full of shyt? You spanked me on Saturday. I was the first one to make sure they didn't make a mistake. Just unlucky for you they dropped high and low. Otherwise you officialy won. I consider it a win for you. I told you congrats, shook your hand, partied with you Saturday night and everything.

I am sure next year I will get spanked several times before I get the Nitro right. Who knows, it may never be competitive or it may be killer. No way to tell.


Kirk, i have the distinct feeling it will be more killer than not. Just given your abilty and expirience. That said are you likely to compete at TN finals? I want one last shot before world finals to see where I stack up against you, cause face it, you're still the 3 time defending world champ, which means you get the target we all aim for.
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#1498094 - 09/24/08 06:52 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Scott P]
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I will be at at least AL, SC, and TN.
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#1498108 - 09/24/08 07:57 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: AcuraTLSQ]
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Johnny-Why am I full of shyt? You spanked me on Saturday. I was the first one to make sure they didn't make a mistake. Just unlucky for you they dropped high and low. Otherwise you officialy won. I consider it a win for you. I told you congrats, shook your hand, partied with you Saturday night and everything.

I'm giving you hell. I never said you weren't a good sport, just that you wouldn't be cool with not winning. I have no doubt a loss would motivate the hell out of you. I'll have to beat you sometime so we can see. ;\)
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#1498234 - 09/25/08 05:22 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: JDAccord]
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#1498261 - 09/25/08 06:12 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: AcuraTLSQ]
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#1498325 - 09/25/08 07:34 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: JDAccord]
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That is too funny.
Man, I had nearly forgotten about that.

Andy in distress!!
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#1498341 - 09/25/08 08:02 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: jacksonp]
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#1498630 - 09/25/08 01:11 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Foam]
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That was a highlight for me.
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#1498694 - 09/25/08 02:50 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Ben Vollmer]
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i just wish i could have recorded the first one.

that video doesn't have the same effect as that guy charging down a hallway with andy cowering in the corner... \:D
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#1498700 - 09/25/08 02:58 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: JDAccord]
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just got my car back from Steve. I have two nights to get this thing ready for Boaz. \:\/
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#1498710 - 09/25/08 03:03 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: bikinpunk]
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from what i heard you won't have to do much. i'd hit dave up and get him to give you a clinic on what you need to work on. don't let him tune it, or do if you want to win, but see if you can hear the things he says are wrong before you let him get to fixing stuff. you have a good install now, it's time to start training your ears. ;\)
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#1498715 - 09/25/08 03:06 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Thumper26]
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I'm planning on doing this all on my own.

Maybe it's that I've been driving my wife's car, but it sounded to me that the image was centered in front of me and not the dash. I'm going to keep Steve's settings on one preset, but do my own, too. I want to be able to figure things out on my own and let someone tell me what they think about my job. If I goof it up, I'll have Steve's settings to fall back on if needed.

Check my build thread on diy. I have a few pics up of the final product. He did an amazing job. Should have build pics Sunday as we didn't have anything to transfer them to today.
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#1498719 - 09/25/08 03:11 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: bikinpunk]
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Be careful with the center. He may have set it up with the seat back all the way. We all tend to do that so anybody can get in the car and listen + it will get you back away from the speakers a little. Try it an see.
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#1498752 - 09/25/08 04:05 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: TtownCLS]
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^ yup.

slide the seat all the way back, and mess with reclining it until you see a compromise in stage height.

use alpines formula for time alignment as a starter, then trust your ears from there.
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#1498838 - 09/25/08 06:14 PM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: bikinpunk]
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and since I don't have enough competition points I couldn't enter World's could I?


SQ2 is an open class as World Finals which means no points required. Just need to be a MECA member.
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#1499207 - 09/26/08 09:02 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: TtownCLS]
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Be careful with the center. He may have set it up with the seat back all the way. We all tend to do that so anybody can get in the car and listen + it will get you back away from the speakers a little. Try it an see.


Is that typically how you guys are judged?.. .seat all the way back?

If so, I'd HAVE to have different settings because I cannot drive with my seat any further back than about 15degrees (the notch right after straight up & down). But, if that's what the norm and suggested is, I'll have to tune my car for this.
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#1499212 - 09/26/08 09:04 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: bikinpunk]
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Who cares what you drive like. You set your seat for judging, not the judge. Some cars I can't even touch the pedals. And as long as that is the place that works best for you, it works best for the judge.

I do not reccommend close in to the steering wheel. Some of us judges are big boys.
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#1499215 - 09/26/08 09:17 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Ben Vollmer]
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I know when I get in some cars the first thing I think is "do they drive like this?". ;\)

At this point a c701 would come in handy. If I'm sitting back in my car that far away from the dash it's going to be a pain to keep reaching for my h/u. Looks like I'll be investing in a c701 soon...
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#1499220 - 09/26/08 09:22 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: Ben Vollmer]
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I do not reccommend close in to the steering wheel. Some of us judges are big boys.


That's the main reason I put mine all the way back. My first few shows were done with my normal seat position, then a judge told me he couldn't get in the car. I had never thought about it till then. The seat position does change how it sounds too, so you need to tune for the position you're being judged with.
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#1499222 - 09/26/08 09:28 AM Re: Car Audio Nationals - Finals Update [Re: TtownCLS]
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Pushing the seat itself back isn't the issue. It's just when it's tilted back far that I have a problem. I typically drive with the seat all the way back on the rails, and tilted about 15* back.
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