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#1448896 - 28/07/08 05:15 PM audio system power??
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OK so I have been building up ideas on my new system. So I was wondering if I would need an alternate power source other than regular car battery, alternator, and amp for the following: (2) 15in Pyle subwoofers 3600w each, Pyle 3000w amp, and a 4 farad capacitor. Plz Let me know if I am going to need an alternate source of power.
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#1448900 - 28/07/08 05:24 PM Re: audio system power?? [Re: 98MSportXLS]
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IMHO, I wouldn't go with anything made by pyle. I've never heard any of there stuff but for the price you pay and the "output" they say just doesn't make any sense to me, maybe i'm wrong, maybe i'm not.
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#1449074 - 28/07/08 09:34 PM Re: audio system power?? [Re: erbgottie]
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It's a step better than wiring computer speakers off of a portable cd player into the car.

Save your money. save up and while doing so, read around this forum for ideas on how to better spend money for audio in your car. Some Pyle equipment is a border line improvement over stock audio equipment (not all of it though).

If that's all you're going for out of your stereo then look around and find what those amps are fused at and post back with the information.

You can get some pyle audio equipment to sound "alright" but it still doesn't hold up with extended use or loud playback. You decide how to spend your money though.
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#1449108 - 28/07/08 10:18 PM Re: audio system power?? [Re: gibby]
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alright thanks
I will post back with other brand questions.
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#1449118 - 28/07/08 10:44 PM Re: audio system power?? [Re: 98MSportXLS]
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What about lanzar audio?
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#1449170 - 29/07/08 05:07 AM Re: audio system power?? [Re: 98MSportXLS]
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lanzar ranks with pyle IMHO but from what i've been looking at they look like a better build then pyle. I'd say lanzar over pyle BUT I'd reccomend a smaller sub from a good company and the price should be descent. Like gibby said, it's your money though
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#1449758 - 29/07/08 01:41 PM Re: audio system power?? [Re: erbgottie]
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lanzar and pyle are crappy. spend hte money and get something worthwile
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#1449760 - 29/07/08 01:42 PM Re: audio system power?? [Re: patrick4588]
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and i wouldnt go with 15s personally, they are too "laggy".
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#1449911 - 29/07/08 02:57 PM Re: audio system power?? [Re: patrick4588]
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 Originally Posted By: patrick4588
and i wouldnt go with 15s personally, they are too "laggy".
[no] they aren't
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#1450099 - 29/07/08 08:46 PM Re: audio system power?? [Re: imtfox]
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 Originally Posted By: imtfox
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and i wouldnt go with 15s personally, they are too "laggy".
[no] they aren't


a 15 can sound great if done right. it is a common misconception that larger subs are "slower".
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#1450144 - 29/07/08 10:14 PM Re: audio system power?? [Re: keep_hope_alive]
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i wouldnt think those pyle 15s would be very responsive...

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#1450175 - 29/07/08 10:43 PM Re: audio system power?? [Re: patrick4588]
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And that shows just how inexperienced you are...
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#1450186 - 29/07/08 10:59 PM Re: audio system power?? [Re: imtfox]
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to an extent i suppose. i am not nearly as experienced as most of you. why is the common misconception 15s are slower? is it just because they are improperly setup that makes them slower? clue me in please
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#1450240 - 30/07/08 12:43 AM Re: audio system power?? [Re: patrick4588]
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Exactly. Tuning of the enclosure is more important as the surface area of the cone of the sub increases. Also most (not all) typical sub's motors are not designed with the 15" woofer in mind. They are designed primarily around the more popular 12" and have 15" versions created. Same goes for some 10" woofers. These factors can be overcome but this allows a smaller sweet spot for success. There's more factors that play in but almost always the installation in more important than the electromechanical transducer itself.
And because people post around this forum and others are convinced they "know". Question EVERYTHING.
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#1450254 - 30/07/08 04:06 AM Re: audio system power?? [Re: gibby]
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To the OP, no, your alternator is always your power source in a car. It recharges the battery and powers your car and sound system.
Don't waste any money on caps.
Plye is lying to you. If you put anywhere near 3600 watts into that sub it would blow up and spit speaker parts out the front.

You need
A decent subwoofer (not pyle)
A decent amplifier (not pyramid)
Good amp wiring kit


I would also add new front speakers and an amp and some sound dampening material for your doors.


If you list your budget and what type of car, the guys here can suggest gear to fit almost any budget that will work and sound a hell of a lot better than the money you were going to waste on crappy Pyle gear.
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#1450441 - 30/07/08 09:02 AM Re: audio system power?? [Re: Knobhead]
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another option is get a job at circuit city or best buy and use the vendor accomodations \:\)
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#1450505 - 30/07/08 09:46 AM Re: audio system power?? [Re: patrick4588]
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 Originally Posted By: patrick4588
another option is get a job at circuit city or best buy and use the vendor accomodations \:\)


Yeah, because that's an option for everyone! Good hell kid, save your typing time for myspace.
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#1450510 - 30/07/08 09:52 AM Re: audio system power?? [Re: Mr. Tibbs]
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it was supposed to be taken as a joke, but whatever. lmao
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#1450554 - 30/07/08 10:30 AM Re: audio system power?? [Re: Mr. Tibbs]
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 Originally Posted By: Mr. Tibbs
 Originally Posted By: patrick4588
another option is get a job at circuit city or best buy and use the vendor accomodations \:\)


Yeah, because that's an option for everyone! Good hell kid, save your typing time for myspace.


someone ate a bad bowl of captain crunch, damn dude calm down, hahaha
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4 Rockford T162C 6X8's
2 Rockford P1T Punch tweeters
Rockford T10001BD AMP (Sub)
Rockford T4004 AMP (Speakers/tweeters)
BIG 3 ran; ALL +/- wire StreetWire 0 gauge
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#1450907 - 30/07/08 03:18 PM Re: audio system power?? [Re: erbgottie]
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since both the amp and sub are Pyle, they are equally overrated and the combination should be fine. do the big 3 as a starting point - use 1/0 for all power and ground wiring. if you have severe voltage drop with the sub and amp combination then look into a larger alt.

of course you can do better than Pyle - you'll just have to spend more.

a 15 will typically play lower than a 12 or 10 (if the enclosure is correct). it can also typically play louder with the same power level making it more efficient. the downside is enclosure size (and physical size in general). as mentioned above, the motor structure and amplifier will determine how "fast" the sub will react (in conjunction with the enclosure, of course).
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#1454147 - 04/08/08 11:39 PM Re: audio system power?? [Re: keep_hope_alive]
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alright thanks everyone

I think I have decided to go with MA Audio 15's
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