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#1180521 - 21/08/07 06:05 PM It's against the law to alter safety devices
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Never alter vehicle safety devices it is unethical and can lead to this.. FINED WCC and unique were both fined for doing this. Not to mention if something in a vehicle is alter edand that vehicle is in an accident, bad things can and will happen to the installer/ shop for altering safety equipment.

Yes this stuff is fun but lives are in your hands.


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#1183666 - 24/08/07 05:26 PM Re: It's against the law to alter safety devices [Re: SnakeBite]
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People piss and moan about it when I tell them not to bypass their screens. No one cares to listen accept those that agree.

It annoys me that people put MY hobby in a poor light and jeopardize the right to make the modifications we do because thay are too stupid to pay attention to the laws.

If it keeps up, slowly, the US will become more and more like many Europan contries where even very mild modifications are against the law.
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#1183799 - 24/08/07 09:16 PM Re: It's against the law to alter safety devices [Re: xTHANATOPSISx]
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When I tell people we can't bypass the parking brake, they usually try to give me cash to do it on the side. I jst tell them no and then they procede to get mad and leave...I could really careless if ppl get mad, im not gona do it for them.
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#1199001 - 12/09/07 10:20 PM Re: It's against the law to alter safety devices [Re: habeba86]
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A true professional never jeopardizes lives to make a buck. I often wonder about after market add-ons interfering with air bags. I strive to keep clear of them with cell phone mounts and things of that nature but I have to also wonder about what I don’t know or expect about airbag deployment. When that huge bag comes out of that small opening exactly what path will it take? For instance if I build tweeter pods not on but near the A pillars, how far from the pillar must my project bee in order to not interfere with the deployment of the side airbag curtain???

When will this information be publicly available? Is it already? Why not? When do the lawsuits start?
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#1220205 - 09/10/07 08:23 AM Re: It's against the law to alter safety devices [Re: speakermakers]
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I disagree, if someone wants something done and they know the risks I say let them do it. The child that swallows the most marbles shouldn't be allowed to go on and have children of their own. This is just that on a larger scale, if Joe Blow wants an LCD in his steering wheel, let him, the world will be better with out Joe Blow.
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#1220214 - 09/10/07 08:41 AM Re: It's against the law to alter safety devices [Re: matthias009]
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i agree that we should let natural selection work it's course but that's not the issue here. it's because Joe Blow is gonna be watching his screens and not the street when Sally and Billy cross in front of him. we take the responsibility of driving to lightly as it is with all the other crap we do. Joe Blow is more likely to kill innocent children than hurt himself. The "safety" is for those around the distracted, irresponsible driver.
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#1220224 - 09/10/07 09:05 AM Re: It's against the law to alter safety devices [Re: keep_hope_alive]
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 Originally Posted By: keep_hope_alive
i agree that we should let natural selection work it's course but that's not the issue here. it's because Joe Blow is gonna be watching his screens and not the street when Sally and Billy cross in front of him. we take the responsibility of driving to lightly as it is with all the other crap we do. Joe Blow is more likely to kill innocent children than hurt himself. The "safety" is for those around the distracted, irresponsible driver.

yeah you nailed it on that. It's not Joe Blow having a wreck, it's Joe Blow hitting innocent bystanders.

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#1220348 - 09/10/07 11:24 AM Re: It's against the law to alter safety devices [Re: Thumper26]
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you could just take care of joe blow when he comes in to ask you to do something like that. then he can't jeopardize anyone else's life.
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#1220737 - 09/10/07 05:35 PM Re: It's against the law to alter safety devices [Re: 96passportsq]
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 Originally Posted By: 96passportsq
you could just take care of joe blow when he comes in to ask you to do something like that. then he can't jeopardize anyone else's life.

x2...put a shiny LCD in front of him and lead him in front of his friend Jerry who just got the Steering Wheel LCD... I see the point on the innocent people but there will always be far too many distractions in the car, in-dash LCDs and navi units are just as bad tho for the same reason they are all just too distracting. If you want to make the case of no LCD in the wheel then I would say that no LCD within driver eyesight would be best

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#1220826 - 09/10/07 07:29 PM Re: It's against the law to alter safety devices [Re: matthias009]
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that's what the point of this thread is. the safety device includes not allowing the lcd to play a movie unless you're parked. putting it in a steering wheel is fine so long as you can't play it while your driving.
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#1220834 - 09/10/07 07:48 PM Re: It's against the law to alter safety devices [Re: keep_hope_alive]
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I thought the issue was the airbag thing, since it would be removing the airbag making the driver even more vulnerable to splattering his brains on the high way...my bad
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#1220862 - 09/10/07 08:53 PM Re: It's against the law to alter safety devices [Re: matthias009]
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oh, yea that too. but no one cares about joe blow.
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#1284944 - 02/01/08 10:56 PM Re: It's against the law to alter safety devices [Re: keep_hope_alive]
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#1402370 - 25/05/08 03:16 PM Re: It's against the law to alter safety devices [Re: keep_hope_alive]
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Holy crap, that's an old ass article.
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#1492634 - 16/09/08 10:38 PM Re: It's against the law to alter safety devices [Re: bikinpunk]
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I am thinking about taking out my airbag steering wheel and put in a nardi/momo steering wood. i dont realy c a difference with either a lcd in the wheel. you have to be a retrad to really watch it.
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#1508193 - 09/10/08 07:05 PM Re: It's against the law to alter safety devices [Re: BOSPLYA]
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that includes losing the door chime by not using the correct harness. i say if they're adults, let them make their own decisions, and be responsible for their actions.

a couple of times, i just put in a couple of quick disconnects and showed the customer what wire to unhook, and what wire to hook back up. (for video bypass)

i also make sure i never mount anything where it might interfere w/ safety equipment.
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#1526963 - 07/11/08 10:38 AM Re: It's against the law to alter safety devices [Re: habeba86]
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 Originally Posted By: habeba86
When I tell people we can't bypass the parking brake, they usually try to give me cash to do it on the side. I jst tell them no and then they procede to get mad and leave...I could really careless if ppl get mad, im not gona do it for them.
There can be legitimate reasons for bypassing the parking brake interlock. In my case, I have no use for head unit video but the parking brake also controls the function of the GPS. I bypassed it so that my wife can work the GPS from the passenger seat. I really don't see anything wrong with that.

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