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#1019692 - 05/06/06 03:51 AM XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference?
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From an article on eBay:

"According to audiophiles, XM has a better high end signal and better stereo separation than Sirius."

Please discuss....
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#1019693 - 05/06/06 09:56 AM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference?
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From an article on eBay:

"According to audiophiles, XM has a better high end signal and better stereo separation than Sirius."

Please discuss....
True but Sirius hs better content.
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#1019694 - 05/06/06 10:51 AM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference?
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 Quote:
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Originally posted by Cooter:
From an article on eBay:

"According to audiophiles, XM has a better high end signal and better stereo separation than Sirius."

Please discuss....
True but Sirius hs better content.
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#1019695 - 05/06/06 09:08 PM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference?
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What makes their content better?
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#1019696 - 05/06/06 09:43 PM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference?
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What makes their content better?
The content makes the content better. :rolleyes:

I listen to Hair Nation 90% of the time. Sirius has better rock and better old school rap. They haven't changed formats and added commercials like XM. Ethal was a greatchannel the first year. Ethal Xl sucks.
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#1019697 - 06/06/06 11:33 AM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference?
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Cooter
From an article on eBay:

"According to audiophiles, XM has a better high end signal and better stereo separation than Sirius."

Please discuss....
Ahem... cough.. weeze.. choke... XM has SQ?!?

In all seriousness, it has always been rumored that XM has better SQ than Sirius. But I am speaking from experience when I say XM sounds so horrible as it is right now, what difference does stereo separation make when any sound over 7.5khz is muffled and distorted...

Even when I happened upon a song I thought I might like, I couldn't stand to listen to it... *cringe*
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#1019698 - 06/06/06 09:02 PM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference?
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You aren't going to win any SQ competitions with either of them. I had XM before Stern moved to Sirius. XM was always boring. Sirius has MUCH better overall content. If you like NASCAR and MLB and need to hear it over sat radio, stick with XM. Basketball, Football both college and pro are played on Sirius. Stern was enough for me to switch but I also drive for a living so I get to hear it live.

Sirius is going to be streaming more channels over the internet soon, see my post in OT HERE
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#1057445 - 06/05/07 09:12 AM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: Lem Motlow, Prop. Inc. 1866]
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I have been enjoying Sirius in my cars via a couple different receivers. I my house we have it on Dish Network - and the sound is perfect. They obviously get the signal direct from them. Listening to it online is also very good if you pay the $2.00 a month for the broadband version. The low bit rate version is available for free with a subscription.

I have installed both XM and Sirius in several systems and I have always felt that Sirius sounds better. This may be due to their S-Plex technology which steals bandwidth from talk stations and shares it with musical stations. While this is a good idea and it clearly increases the range of frequencies (less noticeable roll-off), it also creates a swirling sound that is audible at higher volumes.

And yes, Sirius has amazing content. My favs are Octane, Lithium, and Area 33. they all are amazing. Not as happy with XM content and stations.

Some Sirius units also feature an FM Output that runs to their FM relay (on my JVC SR2000_ This is the second best option, just under a true AUX input. The relay is powered by the Sirius tuner and cleanly interjects the audio signal into the FM antenna while shutting off the FM signal. The result is cleaner sound with no static. The relay is also cheap - like $20 Model FMDA25.
The internal FM modulator is way better than what you get from external FM modulators.

while you don't want to show off your system with a sat radio feed, it is perfect when you want great music, no commercials, and not messing with CD's. My work commute went from driving 60 miles to 2 miles. But with both Sirius has been a great luxury.
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#1063575 - 16/05/07 09:57 AM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: keep_hope_alive]
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#1064794 - 17/05/07 08:29 PM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: pan0phobik]
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I love Sirius. There is more channels. Sirius just bought out xm. So i don't know if they are goin to change their name or what
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#1065328 - 18/05/07 05:55 PM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: PioneerPremier07]
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 Originally Posted By: PioneerPremier07
I love Sirius. There is more channels. Sirius just bought out xm. So i don't know if they are goin to change their name or what

Do some more research before you post a mistruth.
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#1071440 - 29/05/07 11:17 AM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: Cooter]
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 Originally Posted By: Cooter

"According to audiophiles, XM has a better high end signal and better stereo separation than Sirius."


Although I don't have Sirius subscription, I drive my brothers' car every now and then. I used to have XM and he has Sirius. XM sounds better than Sirius but it's barely noticeable and only if you have a grand sound setup.

Difference? I would agree to the posts above... Content!
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#1073276 - 31/05/07 04:46 PM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: Joe Orchid]
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XM has Opie and Anthony who, in my opinion, blow Howard Stern out of the water.

As far as SQ....both are better than most MP3s....and a lot of CDs.
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#1075287 - 03/06/07 03:07 PM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: JMUva13]
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 Originally Posted By: JMUva13
XM has Opie and Anthony who, in my opinion, blow Howard Stern out of the water.

As far as SQ....both are better than most MP3s....and a lot of CDs.
but your opinion doesn't matter just like ours....

Howards numbers say a lot. O and A are doing so great they we suspended. Howard > O&A
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#1077780 - 05/06/07 08:54 PM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: IamMurph]
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My experience. XM does have better sound quality compared to Sirius, not that either should ever be considered "audiophile". As far as content that can only be based on personal opinion, no need to elaborate why, that's a no brainer. Also loation will have an effect on reception and this is due to where the satellites are situated..XM seems to work best in the east...southeast most notibly..Sirius seems to work better in the northwest.

Over time I have installed at least 600 units combined so take my word on this...but understand this is a direct comparison assuming all else is equal. Of course if a proper Sirius install is using an aux in..and an XM is poorly installed using wireless mod ...well then it is not a fair comparison.
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#1079936 - 08/06/07 09:44 AM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: Custom Audio NY]
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I have both in my car. XM sounds better to me
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#1080293 - 08/06/07 10:09 PM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: IamMurph]
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 Originally Posted By: IamMurph
 Originally Posted By: JMUva13
XM has Opie and Anthony who, in my opinion, blow Howard Stern out of the water.

As far as SQ....both are better than most MP3s....and a lot of CDs.
but your opinion doesn't matter just like ours....

Howards numbers say a lot. O and A are doing so great they we suspended. Howard > O&A


O and A were suspended because radio execs are getting scared. O and A's sponsors stood by O and A and not XM. Not that it matters. In shock jock world, getting in trouble is a badge of honor.
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#1080296 - 08/06/07 10:26 PM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: IamMurph]
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 Originally Posted By: IamMurph
 Originally Posted By: JMUva13
XM has Opie and Anthony who, in my opinion, blow Howard Stern out of the water.

As far as SQ....both are better than most MP3s....and a lot of CDs.
but your opinion doesn't matter just like ours....

Howards numbers say a lot. O and A are doing so great they we suspended. Howard > O&A


You are right. It doesnt. \:\)

Thats why you won't find me starting posts about how much Xm blows.
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#1080711 - 09/06/07 07:43 PM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: JMUva13]
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#1080967 - 10/06/07 07:14 AM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: Heero Yuy]
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Just seems that his post was a little "chatty". I was expecting this forum to be a little more helpful in the way of technical advise or in the way of actual facts about the two. Instead its about who likes who's content more and why that means the other sucks. GAG!!
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#1080969 - 10/06/07 07:20 AM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: JMUva13]
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Again, i'm done. Not trying to start a fight. Just giving my $0.02. However little it is really worth....
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#1080997 - 10/06/07 09:03 AM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: JMUva13]
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#1081002 - 10/06/07 09:11 AM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: IamMurph]
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This is from my buddies at VW Vortex.
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6466_7-5068442-3.html
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Sound quality: As we mentioned in the XM section, audiophiles will probably be slightly less disappointed in XM than in Sirius. XM's treble is still cleaner, and its stereo separation is wider than Sirius's. We'd still like to see more improvement; both satellite radio services' "all-digital" sound won't be mistaken for CD quality, that's for sure. And both channels' talk, sports, and news streams approximate AM sound quality.


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All of the Sirius channels we listened to exhibited the kind of artifacts compressed-data audio codecs generate when low bit rates are used. Most noticeable was a mid- to high-frequency swirling effect that was most evident on slow to moderately fast music with a clear high end - acoustic guitars, cymbals, and strings were the most problematic.

The sound quality on XM's music channels, on the other hand, was quite good - in fact, surprisingly good considering the low bit rates that both XM and Sirius use to transmit each channel. Response at the top of the audio range was limited, as it was with Sirius. But the "swirling" effects were much more subdued here than they were with Sirius, making them much easier on the ears. For instance, "Eighteen" by the Pat Metheny Group sounded sharp and vivid on XM's Watercolors jazz channel. Given the bit rates involved, it wouldn't be fair to expect CD-quality sound, but XM is a big improvement over what you're used to hearing on FM radio.
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#1081048 - 10/06/07 11:18 AM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: IamMurph]
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Good info!
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#1081049 - 10/06/07 11:22 AM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: JMUva13]
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O & A RULEZ!! \:p

In reality I went from XM to Sirius because of NASCAR. I'm sure everyone on here is a huge NASCAR fan like I am and can understand. I'd rather stay with XM due to the # of channels, O&A and because I was already familiar with it.
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#1097946 - 04/07/07 08:46 PM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: IamMurph]
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 Originally Posted By: IamMurph
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I love Sirius. There is more channels. Sirius just bought out xm. So i don't know if they are goin to change their name or what

Do some more research before you post a mistruth.


word 'round the campfire is they are merging the end of this year. what will happen is any outsiders guess. i suspect Sirius is the stronger company given it's ability to pay for the big names, but a merger is different than a straight up buy out.
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#1098096 - 05/07/07 06:33 AM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: keep_hope_alive]
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uh, yea. just noticed the separate thread about the "merger". maybe they can somehow combine to provide us with a better bitrate that doesn't sound like a$$
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#1103622 - 12/07/07 02:48 PM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: keep_hope_alive]
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Considering I have installed hundreds of both XM and Sirius..from my personal experience XM has better SQ overall. Now as far as reception..that is more of a geographical issue. I notice on the east coast XM is superior..but in the northwest Sirius is better...this has to do with satellite location so not much can be done until a merger...if ever.

Antenna placement is critical as unlike GPS..there are not tons of satellites beaming down for it..so line of sight is easily blocked by the roof,pillars and anything else that blocks the antenna from seeing the sky, especially at angles. This is why the companies are adamant about placing the antenna on the roof..even though many place it on the dash..it might work..but not everywhere if the customer travels, it will cut out eventually.
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#1104527 - 14/07/07 05:58 AM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: Custom Audio NY]
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Considering I have installed hundreds of both XM and Sirius..from my personal experience XM has better SQ overall. Now as far as reception..that is more of a geographical issue. I notice on the east coast XM is superior..but in the northwest Sirius is better...this has to do with satellite location so not much can be done until a merger...if ever.

Antenna placement is critical as unlike GPS..there are not tons of satellites beaming down for it..so line of sight is easily blocked by the roof,pillars and anything else that blocks the antenna from seeing the sky, especially at angles. This is why the companies are adamant about placing the antenna on the roof..even though many place it on the dash..it might work..but not everywhere if the customer travels, it will cut out eventually.


I seem to agree. I live in DC and when I had XM it only cut out when I went into the city where there were tall buildings. Sirius seems to cut out anytime I drive beside a car taller than mine! Trees cut it out, rigs cut it out, tall buildings....its more than slightly annoying. The SQ of Sirius is slightly better than when I had XM running through my FM.

Oh well. I mostly only have satellite radio for news/talk/sports anyhow....
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#1107787 - 18/07/07 09:20 PM Re: XM vs. Sirius: SQ Difference? [Re: PioneerPremier07]
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Ive had Sirius for about 3 years now and I wanted to try XM to use with a Jensen indash DVD that I had.I had the XM for about 3 days and canceled it.They were almost begging me to stay.They offered me a year for 80.00 and I said no.Hair Nation Rules!!!Oh yeah and lets not forget about Howard.Sirius forever.
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